Plowing for the winter

[wondering1298]

Here is an article in The Town and Country newspaper from Oct. 15 about snow plowing in Northgate.

http://www.upvnews.com/

Upper Hanover township is refusing to plow our development - do we not all pay the same taxes? Also, I find it hard to believe the schools will allow the children to be absent everytime it snows because the bus can not pick up the children and the parents can not get out of the development to drive them. The township says the banks own the property - not THP and not them. DOes anyone know which banks own Phase I and II of Northgate? Maybe we can get some action by contacting them. Not to mention an ambulance, police, etc can not get in the development to rescue its citizens if needed ( ex, heart attack, mother going into labor, etc)

[northgate#46]

I think the townships can not plow is because legally they do not own the streets yet. It is not been dedicated to the township yet. This is something that baffles myself as well. If i am going to be paying real estate taxes then why do i not receive the benefits that those taxes are supposed to be going toward. If so why the hell do you not receive a refund or have to pay them at all. Just another sign of how well our government works.

How was the plowing this past winter up at northgate? This greatly concerns us since well they do not have people working for them to do this. I don't think they have any funds to pay for a private contractor either. My fiancé' has a very low sitting car that gets easily damaged if the snow is to high. Don't ask how we know this lol found that out the other year.

[thoreau]

I believe they will plow Otts rd, just like the school bus drives on it but won't go through the development.

Last year THP did it themselves and it was fine. That's not going to help now, but you asked.

[grannyd53]

I would like to know why we have to pay the full amt. of our HOA dues that is still run by THP? It is suppose to go towards trash removal, snow plowing & street lights. We don't have any lights, we were just informed they will not be plowing.....where is this money going if we're not getting the services it's suppose to be going towards?

[WPF hatfield owner]

Yeah, THP did all Westport Farm Hatfield plowing last year also. The "plow" was a bulldozer, and it left HUGE chunks of curb missing. They were very careless, and now the bond money will not fix these missing chunks. It is considered "cosmetic". I bet, when I go to sell the house, and the township makes me pay, although they will not fix it themselves. Double standard. The plowing also took place well after the storms were done, and it wasn't very effective. No salting either. Hopefully Hatfield will step it up this winter and do something different for us.

[thoreau]

Originally Posted by grannyd53

I would like to know why we have to pay the full amt. of our HOA dues that is still run by THP? It is suppose to go towards trash removal, snow plowing & street lights. We don't have any lights, we were just informed they will not be plowing.....where is this money going if we're not getting the services it's suppose to be going towards?

I looked into this, and it is my understanding that there was never money collected in HOA fees to cover snow clearing because THP was just doing this themselves. Money was only in HOA fees to cover grass and trash.

Of course this makes me angry because it gave an unrealistic view of what our HOA fees would eventually need to be, but that is really beside the point right now.

[Brian]

I second the terrible and late plowing THP did in WPF Franconia last winter also.

[wondering1298]

According to the article, they will just plow the ends of Otts Rd, NOt the whole thing

[Flux]

I understand where the township is coming from, but the laws contradicts itself, as far as responsibility goes.

For example: You buy a home that the township inspectors passed, and while it's in your private possession, you have another inspector come in and they find many code violations? Who is at fault?

I'll say it again..

Heaven forbid an ambulance can't get into one of these developments because of the snow not being plowed. To say the township won't be included in a lawsuit is not living in reality. Of course the township solicitor is going to say it's not their responsibility. I've never yet seen a lawyer admit responsibility to anything.

I'm not saying the township is responsible for plowing the snow, but they take responsibility for protecting the people they serve.